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Please use the Add Topic button above to add a new suggestion/question. Make use of indentations to make threads easy to follow and where possible include your signature at the end of your post.
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== Anonymous Users ==
The Pzwiki server hosts suggested that we only allow registered users of the wiki to edit pages. Sorry if this upsets some folks but we have flipped the switch and made it so.
[[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 02:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


== Tutorial ==
== Tutorial ==
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== Map linked from Main Page ==
== Map linked from Main Page ==
As of now, I notice no obvious link to the Suburbs page or the Map.  I was unable to find it without Googling PZ map and linking to it from a random Someting Awful post.
As of now, I notice no obvious link to the Suburbs page or the Map.  I was unable to find it without Googling PZ map and linking to it from a random Someting Awful post.
:Good point! Will sort this out in a very short while! [[User:Mmmicrophone|Mmmicrophone]] - <small>'''''PZwiki administrator'''''</small> 20:15, 1 June 2011 (BST)
:Good point! Will sort this out in a very short while! [[User:Mmmicrophone|Mmmicrophone]] - <small>'''''PZwiki administrator'''''</small> 20:15, 1 June 2011 (BST)
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== Translations ==
== Translations ==
If you need help creating new translations please let the community know. Entering ad hoc translations within the pages of other languages is really not how we want to go about it (e.g. putting Spanish translations next to items on an English page).  
If you need help creating new translations please let the community know. Entering ad hoc translations within the pages of other languages is really not how we want to go about it (e.g. putting Spanish translations next to items on an English page).  
[[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 14:43, 20 July 2012 (BST)
[[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 14:43, 20 July 2012 (BST)


== Collapsible tables ==
== Collapsible tables ==
Is the collapsible table class implemented on this wiki yet? Might be beneficial if it was. --[[User:DUMBELLS|DUMBELLS]] 16:19, 11 June 2011 (BST)
Is the collapsible table class implemented on this wiki yet? Might be beneficial if it was. --[[User:DUMBELLS|DUMBELLS]] 16:19, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:hm, have installed it as per the instructions on the mediawiki site however they don't seem to work. If they don't work it will probably be best to wait until the server move is sorted as I'll most likely upgrade the software to 1.17 when that happens which has collapsible tables out of the box. [[User:Mmmicrophone|Mmmicrophone]] - <small>'''''PZwiki administrator'''''</small> 18:31, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:hm, have installed it as per the instructions on the mediawiki site however they don't seem to work. If they don't work it will probably be best to wait until the server move is sorted as I'll most likely upgrade the software to 1.17 when that happens which has collapsible tables out of the box. [[User:Mmmicrophone|Mmmicrophone]] - <small>'''''PZwiki administrator'''''</small> 18:31, 11 June 2011 (BST)
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::Please barge in. I was hoping to get some ideas or opinions. I did go ahead and take away createpage from anonymous users. Adding email confirm could be a headache for users (and me) once the next update comes out and this place gets busy. I will consider restricting anonymous edits in the future. The banned IP list on that mediawiki page seems like a good deal - 3 of the 4 ips I banned in the last 24 hrs were on the list - but there may be some server performance issues to consider. It will be a last resort that will hopefully not be needed. Thanks! [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 03:36, 2 May 2012 (BST)
::Please barge in. I was hoping to get some ideas or opinions. I did go ahead and take away createpage from anonymous users. Adding email confirm could be a headache for users (and me) once the next update comes out and this place gets busy. I will consider restricting anonymous edits in the future. The banned IP list on that mediawiki page seems like a good deal - 3 of the 4 ips I banned in the last 24 hrs were on the list - but there may be some server performance issues to consider. It will be a last resort that will hopefully not be needed. Thanks! [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 03:36, 2 May 2012 (BST)
== Spiked baseballbat ==
I noticed that the current page about the spiked baseballbat said you kill zombies with one hit with it. I have played enough with the spiked baseballbat to notice that it kills in one hit IF you hit with while the zombie is on the right distance.


== Spelling Conventions ==
== Spelling Conventions ==
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Mash suggested I put a link to my starvation calculator on here somewhere, as well as add a page that is similar to my food guide... I'm not really sure how to do that or where to put it... Suggestions? [[User:AdricTheGreat|AdricTheGreat]] 8:20pm, July 13 2011 EST
Mash suggested I put a link to my starvation calculator on here somewhere, as well as add a page that is similar to my food guide... I'm not really sure how to do that or where to put it... Suggestions? [[User:AdricTheGreat|AdricTheGreat]] 8:20pm, July 13 2011 EST


== Traits ==
The Wiki is missing most of the traits and their effects I want to add those pages ASAP.


== Link all items to items category  ==
== Link all items to items category  ==
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:Hey Doc. I wish I could offer more help (hopefully someone with more knowledge will come by). Take a look at the code behind the molotov cocktail page and model your code upon it. When you see recipelookup it is referencing this page- Template:RecipeLookup which you will need to go into edit mode to see that it is a list of recipes that can be used on multiple pages. Also I believe some of your underlying ingredients either do not have pages yet or your links are incorrect - they are linking to a valid page.  [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 14 March 2012
:Hey Doc. I wish I could offer more help (hopefully someone with more knowledge will come by). Take a look at the code behind the molotov cocktail page and model your code upon it. When you see recipelookup it is referencing this page- Template:RecipeLookup which you will need to go into edit mode to see that it is a list of recipes that can be used on multiple pages. Also I believe some of your underlying ingredients either do not have pages yet or your links are incorrect - they are linking to a valid page.  [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 14 March 2012
::Hey! Thanks for the awesome help. Hope that it is done correct now. The other items for the crafting-recipes aren´t done yet.  [[User:DrCox1911|DrCox1911]] 18 March 2012
::Hey! Thanks for the awesome help. Hope that it is done correct now. The other items for the crafting-recipes aren´t done yet.  [[User:DrCox1911|DrCox1911]] 18 March 2012
== Link to Controls article onto main page? ==
Anyone with relevant rights feel like adding a visible link to [[Controls]] on the [[Main_Page]] would be a good idea? It's probably the single most common question we get on IRC, since there's no ingame controls / hotkeys list in the game. [[User:Harakka|Harakka]] 21:10, 28 March 2012 (BST)
:Good idea. Take a look at the change I made and let me know if that is what you intended. You can also edit the [[Main page sandbox]] to show what you would like to change. Thanks! [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 22:53, 28 March 2012 (BST)
::Exactly what I meant. Thank you. [[User:Harakka|Harakka]] 06:57, 29 March 2012 (BST)


== Übersetzen ins Deutsche ==
== Übersetzen ins Deutsche ==
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Diesen Thread können wir für Diskussionen bzgl. Änderungen bzw. Übersetzungen der deutschsprachigen Artikel benutzen [[User:Holzmann|Holzmann]] 11:18, 30 March 2012 (BST)
Diesen Thread können wir für Diskussionen bzgl. Änderungen bzw. Übersetzungen der deutschsprachigen Artikel benutzen [[User:Holzmann|Holzmann]] 11:18, 30 March 2012 (BST)
== French main page protected ==
Hi ! I wanted to update the french main page but it's protected... Is this normal ? Thanks :-)
:Give it a try now, I reduced the protection on the page. There were problems with vandalism on the main pages last year and they were locked from any non-admin edits. Let me know if you have any trouble. Thanks! [[User:Pianoman|Pianoman]] 18:29, 31 March 2012 (BST)
::It works perfectly, thank you ;) - Morbad


== Items Page Needs to be redone... ==
== Items Page Needs to be redone... ==

Revision as of 02:48, 17 December 2012

Please use the Add Topic button above to add a new suggestion/question. Make use of indentations to make threads easy to follow and where possible include your signature at the end of your post.

Anonymous Users

The Pzwiki server hosts suggested that we only allow registered users of the wiki to edit pages. Sorry if this upsets some folks but we have flipped the switch and made it so. Pianoman 02:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Tutorial

Should we throw together a simple tutorial? just a single page with all "need to know" information such as movement, interaction and so forth? Or should we wait on that since that page would need ALLOT of maintenance since the game is changing pretty fast?

Yeah I think this is probably the way to do it, as long as it doesn't end up being a walk through. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 09:25, 2 June 2011 (BST)

Map linked from Main Page

As of now, I notice no obvious link to the Suburbs page or the Map. I was unable to find it without Googling PZ map and linking to it from a random Someting Awful post.

Good point! Will sort this out in a very short while! Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 20:15, 1 June 2011 (BST)
Done! Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 21:22, 1 June 2011 (BST)

FAQ?

I'm not sure if we need a tutorial per se but a FAQ covering things like pausing the game, whether or not you can save your game, how to start a new game, tips for play, etc. might be a decent idea.

I like this idea. I think a page is still required for the tutorial, maybe just have it describe what it teaches you etc rather than a step by step guide? Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 21:24, 1 June 2011 (BST)
I think it would be nice to have an F.A.Q. page. If there are questions anyone needs answered, they could go on the FAQ discussion page and answers can be added later by knowledgeable players. Most games of this caliber have a steep learning curve when it comes to the game mechanics; being a survival game and all much detail has gone into certain behaviors (effects light, sound, etc have on gameplay is very hidden but important). With proper organization, an FAQ could be a valuable page to this wiki, I think. -- Rachealica 10:43, 18 May 2012 (CST6CDT)
FAQ page has been freshened up slightly and is now seeking contributors. I don't know if I want to blatantly copy the minecraftwiki FAQ formatting but they did do a good job there. Feel free to make any changes you like. Thanks. Pianoman 01:23, 21 May 2012 (BST)
I think it might be best to call the page Frequently Asked Questions with a redirect from F.A.Q/FAQ. -- Rachealica 13:04, 21 May 2012 (CST6CDT)
Strange, I could have sworn I responded to this 30 minutes ago. That's the trouble with checking the wiki while at work. But in any event that is a good idea! Pianoman 19:56, 21 May 2012 (BST)

Containers

Maybe a bit of a trivial topic. Should [these pages] all be on 1 generic containers page? Each of the current pages could have their own section. Just right now there doesn't seem to be a great deal of info for each page and I doubt there ever will be.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 22:17, 1 June 2011 (BST)

done! if/when we have too much info on the page we can split it again.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:35, 4 June 2011 (BST)

SPOILERS! (none in this post)

So some people have added a few spoilers to the tutorial and Kate Smith pages. Do we want to avoid having spoilers on here or should we just go for it? At the moment there is only really 1 or 2 things that can be spoiled story wise but I'm sure there will eventually be more..

I think this depends on whether we are going to add a walkthrough for stories. In that case I would suggest the use of spoilers, but to warn for them explicitly on the top of the page Jhw 23:35, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikimark up help section

So I started adding a list of commonly used wikimark up to the help section here. It's a bit lacking right now so feel free to suggest any other bits you think should be added. I'd personally like to try to keep the help page simple so it doesn't scare newcomers off. Anything more complex like tables and whatnot could probably be linked to via the main mediawiki page.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 12:15, 5 June 2011 (BST)

Translations

If you need help creating new translations please let the community know. Entering ad hoc translations within the pages of other languages is really not how we want to go about it (e.g. putting Spanish translations next to items on an English page). Pianoman 14:43, 20 July 2012 (BST)

Collapsible tables

Is the collapsible table class implemented on this wiki yet? Might be beneficial if it was. --DUMBELLS 16:19, 11 June 2011 (BST)

hm, have installed it as per the instructions on the mediawiki site however they don't seem to work. If they don't work it will probably be best to wait until the server move is sorted as I'll most likely upgrade the software to 1.17 when that happens which has collapsible tables out of the box. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 18:31, 11 June 2011 (BST)

Crafting tables

I feel that these really should be as simple as possible so that anyone can jump in and change things if needed. I'm not 100% convinced that different templates is really the way to go with this, although can see the benefit in only having to change something once and have it update on all of the pages. templates also seem to scare people off at times.. (they also seem to have broken during the server move and I have no idea how to fix them!).

I've started up another revision of the crafting tables format which you can see starting to take shape on the crafting page. It just uses basic wikimarkup tables and all of the info will go straight into the page (for now at least). I personally think this looks a bit nicer.

Sure it might be a bit of a pain to keep them up to date when things change, but at least anyone can edit it right away without having to navigate a host of different templates.

Discussion on this is very much appreciated! Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:32, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Looks like reinstalling some of the extensions has fixed the broken templates! The crafting page now has both old and new table styles if anyone wishes to comment? Whatever get's decided we'll stick with.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:59, 12 June 2011 (BST)
On second thoughts, lets stick with what dumbells has sorted out. Although I do stand by my comment that it needs to be as simple as possible for people to add and edit things as easily as possible! Will revert the changes I made. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 22:00, 12 June 2011 (BST)

The news section

So the news section on the front page seems a little redundant. Does anyone think it's worth keeping? Could we replace it with something else? Any suggestions?

One idea I have is that it could be made into a section listing tutorial pages as well as help resources for any newbies out there. --DUMBELLS 04:20, 26 June 2011 (BST)

Spamming

I've been having to manually revert these annoying spam edits for a while. There's gotta be a way to stop them from spamming the main page talk like this. Maybe if you required newly registered users to fill out a CAPTCHA or something? I hope something can be done about this. --DUMBELLS 16:59, 29 June 2011 (BST)

I just deleted a link from the main "Item" category page advertising loan services. I am not sure if I was supposed to do that, but I left a note in the edit summary all the same. Rachealica
You really should consider installing this Captcha-Extension for MediaWiki, if you need any assistance, I am more than willing to help: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit Jhw 20:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
We have added an extension which will hopefully take care of the majority of spam(we'll see...) Pianoman 17:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm most likely going to take the ability to create pages away from anonymous users. Spammers have changed their tactics to get around the preventive measures and put their garbage on the wiki. In any event most anonymous edits are on existing pages and this will not prevent that. What say you? Pianoman 22:28, 1 May 2012 (BST)

Sorry to barge in like this, but please take a look at this page. Restricting edits and adding email confirmation would be a little extreme, but it could work. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam Vagrant 01:47, 2 May 2012 (BST)
Please barge in. I was hoping to get some ideas or opinions. I did go ahead and take away createpage from anonymous users. Adding email confirm could be a headache for users (and me) once the next update comes out and this place gets busy. I will consider restricting anonymous edits in the future. The banned IP list on that mediawiki page seems like a good deal - 3 of the 4 ips I banned in the last 24 hrs were on the list - but there may be some server performance issues to consider. It will be a last resort that will hopefully not be needed. Thanks! Pianoman 03:36, 2 May 2012 (BST)

Spelling Conventions

Hi, I noticed the page http://pzwiki.net/wiki/Hypercondriac and was tempted to correct it to hypochondriac , or possibly more correctly hypochondria but I actually can find no spelling conventions for the wiki. Are things to be spelled as they appear in the game - possibly with a (sic) afterwards if it is miss-spelled, or are there to be conventions as to capitalisations of links, etc...

Guides

Mash suggested I put a link to my starvation calculator on here somewhere, as well as add a page that is similar to my food guide... I'm not really sure how to do that or where to put it... Suggestions? AdricTheGreat 8:20pm, July 13 2011 EST


Link all items to items category

I think all items should be linked to items category including ammo, consumables, ect. Good idea? Bad idea? - Rachealica 19:20, 26 December 2011 (CST6CDT)

Index Page/ Contents Page

I am finding it hard to find pages, or linking relevant pages; there isn't much organization right now. There should be some sort of index or contents page that lists all up-to-date articles (not editing help or things that haven't been implemented -other than the planned features page) I think. If I wasn't familiar with the ins and outs of the game already, I'd be hard pressed to finding out on this wiki. -- Rachealica 28 December 2011 8:58 CST

Adding the Version Category to resolve this. -- Auchtor 28 March 2012 13:31 CST

French wiki main page

Hi. I'm admin of a french fansite zomboid-fr.net and I started updating this wiki in french. I saw that english and russian main page are more complete than the french mainpage. I'd like to modify this mainpage like english or russian ones. How Can I do ? I have no access to the "edit" fonction, which is normal I think...

German Mainpage and other german wiki parts

Hallo,I would to start updating this wiki on german, but the problem is,I don't know how can I do it ...

Yes, I'd also like to help translate some pages into German, but I can't find a way to create a German page. It seems that only French, Russian, and Japanese languages are enabled at this point, so making a Zombies/de page wouldn't direct correctly. Or am I misunderstanding the language page guides? Holzmann 29 March, 2012

I don't have an answer for you yet but let me check around and see if I can figure it out. Thanks! Pianoman 22:32, 29 March 2012 (BST)
Thanks, I did a quick translation of the main page and made a new thread here for German speakers who want to help out. Hopefully we'll have a Wiki in four languages pretty soon :) Holzmann 11:20, 30 March 2012 (BST)

How to create crafting-recipes?

I added some items (like Peas and Dry Ramen Noodles) with crafting-recipes in them, but are the done correct? If not, how do I set them up the right way? Really confusing for me...

Hey Doc. I wish I could offer more help (hopefully someone with more knowledge will come by). Take a look at the code behind the molotov cocktail page and model your code upon it. When you see recipelookup it is referencing this page- Template:RecipeLookup which you will need to go into edit mode to see that it is a list of recipes that can be used on multiple pages. Also I believe some of your underlying ingredients either do not have pages yet or your links are incorrect - they are linking to a valid page. Pianoman 14 March 2012
Hey! Thanks for the awesome help. Hope that it is done correct now. The other items for the crafting-recipes aren´t done yet. DrCox1911 18 March 2012

Übersetzen ins Deutsche

Pianoman war sehr nett und hat eine deutschsprachige Hauptseite eingerichtet, die ich soeben übersetzt habe. Ich werde fleißig neue Seiten übersetzen, um die deutsche Wiki weiter auszubauen, aber ich möchte auch bekannt geben, dass ich kein Muttersprachler bin, also kann es durchaus passieren, dass meine Formulierungen suboptimal sind. Deshalb nehme ich es keinem übel, wenn er meine Beiträge bearbeitet :)

Diesen Thread können wir für Diskussionen bzgl. Änderungen bzw. Übersetzungen der deutschsprachigen Artikel benutzen Holzmann 11:18, 30 March 2012 (BST)

Items Page Needs to be redone...

Its looks terrible in list form. We need to do something similar to what we have in the crafting section. With a image and a short snippet of info.

You know what? You're right! I'll take a deep look into the crafting template and try to imitate its scripture to make a kick-ass article. I'm on it. Vagrant 06:32, 30 April 2012 (BST)
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I have been doing some work on the modding section of the wiki, I recently added Tutorials and Modding Tools. Could you think of anything else that needs to be on there? Superhaze 1:08, 2 May 2012 (PST)
I prefer using the vanilla version of PZ, so modding is not really my forte. Good job on updating this section. Vagrant 23:04, 2 May 2012 (BST)

Spanish translation

I want to help on a Spanish translation, I'm from Spain, and Spanish is a necessary language in this wiki I think, and it will expand the game to Spanish-speaking people.

How can I help? Is there any volunteer?

Thanks in advance. luchots

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Quiero ayudar en una traducción al español, soy de España, y el español es un lenguaje necesario en esta wiki, creo yo, y expandirá el juego a hispano-parlantes.

¿Cómo puedo ayudar? ¿Hay algún voluntario?

Gracias de antemano. luchots

Hey Luchots, We most certainly need a Spanish translation but have not had many (or possibly any) contributors. You are welcome to do what you feel you can accomplish and hopefully other volunteers will join you. If you need any help with getting started let me know. For the suggested way of adding language articles you should also take a look at the work of Vagrant, one of our contributors who has been working on the French pages. Thanks! Pianoman 15:39, 18 May 2012 (BST) PZwWiki Admin

Expansion of Notice Boxes

I think more notice boxes should be added, for example, once the game really starts to take off, spoilers are going to become a big issue. People won't be able to help themselves. Giving players a heads up might be in order... Rachealica 10:30, 18 May 2012 (CST6CDT)

Agreed. I have been a bit remiss in adding notice boxes aside from a few occasions. Pianoman 16:47, 18 May 2012 (BST)

Other Useful Pages

I think another page should be created on the main page with links to other helpful or useful sites. There are a lot of support pages and podcast-ing going on that would really help players become more familiar with the game. -- Rachealica 10:36, 18 May 2012 (CST6CDT)

Good idea. Were you thinking about a section on the main page with links like the IndieStone blog or a link to a wiki page with the links as well as a short description? Thanks. Pianoman 16:46, 18 May 2012 (BST)
I was thinking the latter to reduce on clutter, but either way would work. Rachealica 10:49, 18 May 2012 (CST6CDT)

Add language template

Ok, in an attempt to bring more people into the game, and to help those who doesn't know english, i just started a translation of the wiki in portuguese (taking advantage of the moment to ask those hidden portuguese speakers to join up), I would like to ask for someone (or tell me how..) the add of "Português" into the language template. I have already translated the main page: http://pzwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page/pt and will continue to translate on the moments that i'm not playing xD... Podesta 21:42, 10 August 2012 (BST)

Hey Podesta. Thanks for helping out. I think that I have taken care of the languages template but let me know if there are any problems. Thanks again! Pianoman 22:40, 10 August 2012 (BST)

Steam, Greenlight & the Wiki

Things continue to look up with Project Zomboid's chances of getting on Steam appearing very good. I would like to thank everyone for contributing to PZwiki and just want to say that once the next version is out and PZ is on Steam it will be more important than ever that you remember to share your knowledge. I will help guide things along as well as I can and as long as I can. Thanks Again!! Pianoman 16:58, 1 September 2012 (BST)