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Anonymous Users

The Pzwiki server hosts suggested that we only allow registered users of the wiki to edit pages. Sorry if this upsets some folks but we have flipped the switch and made it so. Pianoman 02:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Without a large enough userbase to revert vandalism, this makes sense. Though if you haven't tried using Extension:AbuseFilter yet, I'd recommend giving that a shot (its fairly easy to import Wikipedia's ruleset, which is fairly large). Zellfaze 18:01, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
It's more about caching than it is about vandalism, though the anti-vandalism aspect is certainly helpful. Kirrus (talk)

Tutorial

Should we throw together a simple tutorial? just a single page with all "need to know" information such as movement, interaction and so forth? Or should we wait on that since that page would need ALLOT of maintenance since the game is changing pretty fast?

Yeah I think this is probably the way to do it, as long as it doesn't end up being a walk through. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 09:25, 2 June 2011 (BST)

Containers

Maybe a bit of a trivial topic. Should these pages all be on 1 generic containers page? Each of the current pages could have their own section. Just right now there doesn't seem to be a great deal of info for each page and I doubt there ever will be.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 22:17, 1 June 2011 (BST)

done! if/when we have too much info on the page we can split it again.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:35, 4 June 2011 (BST)

SPOILERS! (none in this post)

So some people have added a few spoilers to the tutorial and Kate Smith pages. Do we want to avoid having spoilers on here or should we just go for it? At the moment there is only really 1 or 2 things that can be spoiled story wise but I'm sure there will eventually be more..

I think this depends on whether we are going to add a walkthrough for stories. In that case I would suggest the use of spoilers, but to warn for them explicitly on the top of the page Jhw 23:35, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Translations

If you need help creating new translations please let the community know. Entering ad hoc translations within the pages of other languages is really not how we want to go about it (e.g. putting Spanish translations next to items on an English page). Pianoman 14:43, 20 July 2012 (BST)

Collapsible tables

Is the collapsible table class implemented on this wiki yet? Might be beneficial if it was. --DUMBELLS 16:19, 11 June 2011 (BST)

hm, have installed it as per the instructions on the mediawiki site however they don't seem to work. If they don't work it will probably be best to wait until the server move is sorted as I'll most likely upgrade the software to 1.17 when that happens which has collapsible tables out of the box. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 18:31, 11 June 2011 (BST)

Crafting tables

I feel that these really should be as simple as possible so that anyone can jump in and change things if needed. I'm not 100% convinced that different templates is really the way to go with this, although can see the benefit in only having to change something once and have it update on all of the pages. templates also seem to scare people off at times.. (they also seem to have broken during the server move and I have no idea how to fix them!).

I've started up another revision of the crafting tables format which you can see starting to take shape on the crafting page. It just uses basic wikimarkup tables and all of the info will go straight into the page (for now at least). I personally think this looks a bit nicer.

Sure it might be a bit of a pain to keep them up to date when things change, but at least anyone can edit it right away without having to navigate a host of different templates.

Discussion on this is very much appreciated! Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:32, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Looks like reinstalling some of the extensions has fixed the broken templates! The crafting page now has both old and new table styles if anyone wishes to comment? Whatever get's decided we'll stick with.. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 19:59, 12 June 2011 (BST)
On second thoughts, lets stick with what dumbells has sorted out. Although I do stand by my comment that it needs to be as simple as possible for people to add and edit things as easily as possible! Will revert the changes I made. Mmmicrophone - PZwiki administrator 22:00, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Spelling Conventions

Hi, I noticed the page http://pzwiki.net/wiki/Hypercondriac and was tempted to correct it to hypochondriac , or possibly more correctly hypochondria but I actually can find no spelling conventions for the wiki. Are things to be spelled as they appear in the game - possibly with a (sic) afterwards if it is miss-spelled, or are there to be conventions as to capitalisations of links, etc...

Personally I would spell things how they are spelled in game, whether that is misspelled or not. No idea if that specific word is spelt like that in game or not. Zellfaze (talk) 12:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Link all items to items category

I think all items should be linked to items category including ammo, consumables, ect. Good idea? Bad idea? - Rachealica 19:20, 26 December 2011 (CST6CDT)

Index Page/ Contents Page

I am finding it hard to find pages, or linking relevant pages; there isn't much organization right now. There should be some sort of index or contents page that lists all up-to-date articles (not editing help or things that haven't been implemented -other than the planned features page) I think. If I wasn't familiar with the ins and outs of the game already, I'd be hard pressed to finding out on this wiki. -- Rachealica 28 December 2011 8:58 CST

Adding the Version Category to resolve this. -- Auchtor 28 March 2012 13:31 CST

French wiki main page

Hi. I'm admin of a french fansite zomboid-fr.net and I started updating this wiki in french. I saw that english and russian main page are more complete than the french mainpage. I'd like to modify this mainpage like english or russian ones. How Can I do ? I have no access to the "edit" fonction, which is normal I think...

German Mainpage and other german wiki parts

Hallo,I would to start updating this wiki on german, but the problem is,I don't know how can I do it ...

Yes, I'd also like to help translate some pages into German, but I can't find a way to create a German page. It seems that only French, Russian, and Japanese languages are enabled at this point, so making a Zombies/de page wouldn't direct correctly. Or am I misunderstanding the language page guides? Holzmann 29 March, 2012

I don't have an answer for you yet but let me check around and see if I can figure it out. Thanks! Pianoman 22:32, 29 March 2012 (BST)
Thanks, I did a quick translation of the main page and made a new thread here for German speakers who want to help out. Hopefully we'll have a Wiki in four languages pretty soon :) Holzmann 11:20, 30 March 2012 (BST)

How to create crafting-recipes?

I added some items (like Peas and Dry Ramen Noodles) with crafting-recipes in them, but are the done correct? If not, how do I set them up the right way? Really confusing for me...

Hey Doc. I wish I could offer more help (hopefully someone with more knowledge will come by). Take a look at the code behind the molotov cocktail page and model your code upon it. When you see recipelookup it is referencing this page- Template:RecipeLookup which you will need to go into edit mode to see that it is a list of recipes that can be used on multiple pages. Also I believe some of your underlying ingredients either do not have pages yet or your links are incorrect - they are linking to a valid page. Pianoman 14 March 2012
Hey! Thanks for the awesome help. Hope that it is done correct now. The other items for the crafting-recipes aren´t done yet. DrCox1911 18 March 2012

Übersetzen ins Deutsche

Pianoman war sehr nett und hat eine deutschsprachige Hauptseite eingerichtet, die ich soeben übersetzt habe. Ich werde fleißig neue Seiten übersetzen, um die deutsche Wiki weiter auszubauen, aber ich möchte auch bekannt geben, dass ich kein Muttersprachler bin, also kann es durchaus passieren, dass meine Formulierungen suboptimal sind. Deshalb nehme ich es keinem übel, wenn er meine Beiträge bearbeitet :)

Diesen Thread können wir für Diskussionen bzgl. Änderungen bzw. Übersetzungen der deutschsprachigen Artikel benutzen Holzmann 11:18, 30 March 2012 (BST)

Items Page Needs to be redone...

Its looks terrible in list form. We need to do something similar to what we have in the crafting section. With a image and a short snippet of info.

You know what? You're right! I'll take a deep look into the crafting template and try to imitate its scripture to make a kick-ass article. I'm on it. Vagrant 06:32, 30 April 2012 (BST)
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I have been doing some work on the modding section of the wiki, I recently added Tutorials and Modding Tools. Could you think of anything else that needs to be on there? Superhaze 1:08, 2 May 2012 (PST)
I prefer using the vanilla version of PZ, so modding is not really my forte. Good job on updating this section. Vagrant 23:04, 2 May 2012 (BST)

Spanish translation

I want to help on a Spanish translation, I'm from Spain, and Spanish is a necessary language in this wiki I think, and it will expand the game to Spanish-speaking people.

How can I help? Is there any volunteer?

Thanks in advance. luchots

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Quiero ayudar en una traducción al español, soy de España, y el español es un lenguaje necesario en esta wiki, creo yo, y expandirá el juego a hispano-parlantes.

¿Cómo puedo ayudar? ¿Hay algún voluntario?

Gracias de antemano. luchots

Hey Luchots, We most certainly need a Spanish translation but have not had many (or possibly any) contributors. You are welcome to do what you feel you can accomplish and hopefully other volunteers will join you. If you need any help with getting started let me know. For the suggested way of adding language articles you should also take a look at the work of Vagrant, one of our contributors who has been working on the French pages. Thanks! Pianoman 15:39, 18 May 2012 (BST) PZwWiki Admin

Add language template

Ok, in an attempt to bring more people into the game, and to help those who doesn't know english, i just started a translation of the wiki in portuguese (taking advantage of the moment to ask those hidden portuguese speakers to join up), I would like to ask for someone (or tell me how..) the add of "Português" into the language template. I have already translated the main page: Project Zomboid Wiki/pt and will continue to translate on the moments that i'm not playing xD... Podesta 21:42, 10 August 2012 (BST)

Hey Podesta. Thanks for helping out. I think that I have taken care of the languages template but let me know if there are any problems. Thanks again! Pianoman 22:40, 10 August 2012 (BST)

Steam, Greenlight & the Wiki

Things continue to look up with Project Zomboid's chances of getting on Steam appearing very good. I would like to thank everyone for contributing to PZwiki and just want to say that once the next version is out and PZ is on Steam it will be more important than ever that you remember to share your knowledge. I will help guide things along as well as I can and as long as I can. Thanks Again!! Pianoman 16:58, 1 September 2012 (BST)

Traits category necessary?

I'm not sure if we really need individual pages for each trait when we have a list on the Traits page already. Category:Traits seems like overkill when each one can be fully understood at a glance using the table. --DUMBELLS 15:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Although if the individual pages are removed it might be a good idea to first check that any useful information from them, that is not already in the table, get added to it. Pianoman 17:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

RC2.9, RC3.0 and onwards

There's a new major version out of the door, with more on the way. A lot of stuff has changed. How should info about the new version be handled on the wiki? Just add it to current pages, make a new namespace, or what? Harakka 17:07, 30 April 2013 (BST)

Very good question. Exciting times indeed, but also a period where rapid changes to PZ may make additions to the wiki obsolete. I think we should edit the existing wiki namespace. Over the last couple of years we have had to cope with the different versions and due to that a bit of confusion when using the wiki. However hopefully we are nearing the point where we are closer to an official release on Steam and pzwiki will gradually lose much of the Alpha version content in favor of the retail release content. Hopefully that makes sense. If not let me know what you think. Pianoman 01:41, 1 May 2013 (BST)

Discussing the wiki

After poking around here for a bit, it seems to me that this page is the only area used for discussing the wiki -- and it's awfully inactive. So where am I to go to suggest very specific changes, or to ask questions about the wiki? It seems silly to create a discussion page for every new suggestion, but dumping everything here seems equally inefficient. Is there a place where people are actually discussing the wiki, or is everybody left to figure it out on their own? I've read through the "jazz up the wiki" thread on the old forums, but there didn't seem to be any discussion about the wiki -- just a bunch of people listing off edits they've made. Not really helpful for someone who hasn't been here from the start. So is there some kind of style guide I can refer to? Should I post all my tiny little questions here? Or should I just jump right in and hope that somebody notices if and when I do something wrong? --Felicitations 17:35, 24 July 2013 (BST)

Hi Felicitations - We do what we can with what we have. Don't let the list of admins fool you. Most have not been around for a long time and some just pop in once in a (very long) while. That is the way it is with an indie development where there can be long pauses between updates. For over a year I checked the site daily and making necessary corrections and changes but recently I have had to scale back a bit (hence the unlocking of the main page to edits). Standard rules apply to making major changes - put some sort of notice out or email me if you like. Perhaps post on the new indie stone forum. As far as style guides - I have just tried to keep things similar to the way I received them when I became an admin. I am no wiki genius and a lot of what I know has been gained by screwing around with the pages here (using the preview function of course) and utilizing the mediawiki wiki. Pianoman 23:29, 24 July 2013 (BST)
Hm. Well, none of the changes I have in mind are really "major" -- just the kind of stuff I wouldn't want to start doing if it weren't agreed upon to be a good idea. Like consolidating Category:Carpentry and Category:Construction, or renaming item pages for proper capitalization ("Dry Ramen Noodles" to "Dry ramen noodles," etc.). I don't think I've got the time to help make any major overhauls, even though we probably need some! It's just that I wouldn't want to start renaming or deleting a bunch of stuff only to be told that I'm going against the unofficial agreed-upon formatting. I'm passably familiar with wiki code; it's the PZwiki-specific stuff that I'm unsure about. Felicitations 23:56, 24 July 2013 (BST)
Consolidation, spelling/grammar correction, including redirecting and renaming all sound fine to me. There have been many contributions since the recent releases needing some review. Pianoman 01:20, 25 July 2013 (BST)

AfD 28 мая 2011 года

Article, as far as I can tell, is titled after the day that the game was initially released. The article doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose. I can't really see any way to expand on the current content, and I feel that mentioning the initial release date in the Project Zomboid article would be much better than having an article just about that day. I propose that the article should be deleted. Zellfaze 17:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, looks like a rather pointless page. - Connall 18:26, 18 November 2013

Protected Templates edit requests

I would like the documentation template added to the following templates that are currently protected:

Specifically, I'm just asking that you add {{documentation}} between the <noinclude></noinclude> tags. Zellfaze (talk) 12:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Buggered up a move

I was attempting to get a page moved to continue on my quest of standardising our i18n setup and managed to screw it up. I don't suppose I could get a sysop to delete the page Fenêtre and then move Wooden Window/fr to Fenêtre. Apparently the capitalisation matters, something I forgot when I made the moves. Zellfaze (talk) 14:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

This has been resolved. Thank you. Zellfaze (talk) 21:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Copyright status of this image

CC-0 licensed image that sidesteps all the copyright issues in this thread.

Does anyone know who made that image and under what license it was released (if any). I want to upload it here, but don't want to run afoul of copyright law. Its a really good image and I would love to see it embedded into the Knox County page instead of just linked to from it. Zellfaze (talk) 14:13, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Your guess would be as good as mine. All I know is that it originated from the forums if I'm not mistaken, since I have seen it before. --Connall (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Nabbed it from here: nasKo TinyZed (talk) 14:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Anyone feel like PMing nasKo and asking his permission to use the image here? I don't have an account on the forums and don't at the present time plan to make one (just intend to lurk on the forums and edit the wiki, oh and play the game). Zellfaze (talk) 14:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I'll do it. To be fair you could probably claim Fair Use on the image. --Connall (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Turns out nasKo isn't the original creator but he knows who is, so I'm following it up with him instead. --Connall (talk) 15:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
nasKo made a new one that you can use: http://i.imgur.com/GyPftRV.jpg --Connall (talk) 15:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Ended up making one just for use here together with Harakka on the IRC. This one only uses Public Domain imagery and images from the PZ game. Which satisfies my copyright issues I had with the old image. This image (other than the PZ bits) is licensed CC-0 which is nice for other sites. I've put it to the right side here. Zellfaze (talk) 21:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

What people are working on.

I figured I check to see what everybody is doing, since I'm nearing the edge of front page stuff I'm going to be extending outwards and don't want to start work on things that other people are already doing. I'm trying to get the farming guide updated but it's the area where I lack the most knowledge and am about to sort the modding page as well. --Connall (talk) 21:21, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Well I was about to ask if i should include farming recipes(new index 5000-5999 Template:Crafting) in the Template. Like this:
Output Ingredients Description


[[File:{{{product_image}}}|64x64px|class=pixelart link={{ll|[[{{{product_name}}}]]]]
[[{{{product_name}}}]]
none none none none


[[File:{{{product_image}}}|64x64px|class=pixelart link={{ll|[[{{{product_name}}}]]]]
[[{{{product_name}}}]]
none none none none


[[File:{{{product_image}}}|64x64px|class=pixelart link={{ll|[[{{{product_name}}}]]]]
[[{{{product_name}}}]]
none none none none

(I need help with the descriptions ^^)

Go for it. Since it certainly counts as one, as long as you indicate it as such. Regarding descriptions I'll try and give you a hand. --Connall (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)


I have one major project that I am working on, and that is standardising how all of our i18n pages are done. I would like to try to come up with a standard layout for all of the item pages at some point as well. Kind of like how the Terraria Wiki has a standard layout for all of their items. Have an infobox with general info, and then a list of crafting recipes that the item is used in and the crafting recipe to make it, along with a history (though for the history we would wait until the game is released), and some trivia if there is some (easter eggs etc.).
I've also been going around and cleaning up wikilinks and the like, trying to fix things up where its clear what someone was trying to do, but hadn't quite done it right (or perhaps there is a better way). Finally I've been trying to add {{documentation}} to every template, but I've kind of been stopped by protected pages from doing that (funny that the infoboxes have a higher protection rating than the Project Zomboid Wiki).
I want to start digging into the gamefiles and updating pages with the actual mechanics for how things work, but haven't gotten around to doing so yet. Zellfaze (talk) 23:17, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Anyone think Items is getting long? Or is it fine? tinyZed 23:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

It's getting a bit too long. We will probably need to split the pages up soon, if items keep getting added to the game, it will become impossible to navigate. --Connall (talk) 19:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
What's crazy is we don't even have all the current items on it! Zellfaze (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. We should still probably have an all-items page, for those who want to wade through it, and a number of item-group pages. tinyZed 23:56, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good. Most of the items are categorised anyway, so just make each category have it's own page. I would appreciate it if the pages could be prevented from being stubs as well. Before doing that though, it would probably be best to get all the items in THEN copying them into their own category pages. --Connall (talk) 00:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
For sure. tinyZed 00:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
I dont know if there is already some kind of tool to unpack the .pack files, but if there is not:
I wrote a tiny UnPacker for this matter: http://www.mediafire.com/download/s8e0tcmcrjc5ysb/UnPacker.jar with this you are able to unpack and split all textures and look if there is some item(which has a texture) missing. Its still an early state, so there could be some bugs (backup your file first ^^)
unpack: /PACKNAME.pack -> /PACKNAME/PACKNAME.xml and /PACKNAME/IMAGENAME.png;
pack: /PACKNAME/PACKNAME.xml and /PACKNAME/IMAGENAME.png -> /PACKNAME.pack;
split: /PACKNAME/PACKNAME.xml and /PACKNAME/IMAGENAME.png -> /PACKNAME/IMAGENAME/SUBIMAGE.png
Minic90 (talk) 16:27, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Move PZwiki:Rules

Closed Discussion.

This discussion has been resolved. Please do not modify it. If additional discussion is needed, start a new one below.


Can someone move PZwiki:Rules to PZwiki:Rules. It would make more sense in that location. Zellfaze (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. --Connall (talk) 21:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Interwiki Links

Not sure if anyone else knows this, but you can do standard Wikilinks for links to Wikipedia in articles. If you preface a link with wikipedia: as in [[wikipedia:Main Page]] it will show up as wikipedia:Main Page. These links can be styled and modified in any way that regular wikilinks can. Keeps you from having to fill out a CAPTCHA each time you link there and makes generally nicer looking links. There is a full list of Interwiki prefixes available through the API. If there are any other Wikis that we link to regularly, we should probably add them to that Interwiki list, though that would require kirrus' help. Zellfaze (talk) 20:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

You can also use <span class="plainlinks">[httpexternallink something]</span> to hide the arrow-box thingy if that's bugging anyone. tinyZed 23:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm an admin now as well.

So Pianoman gave me admin privleges, so if you need stuff done that you are unable to do. Feel free to hit myself or Pianoman up. Post on this page as well, as I do check it regularly. --Connall (talk) 00:09, 21 November 2013 (UTC)