User talk:Ikip
Thanks for the help with locations!
Hey! Thanks for the warm words and help with the locations; you should add yourself to the PZwiki:Project Locations and Maps? You seem to have done a lot of great work in the past few days (or I can add you if you want to :P). I also think you're not on the Discord, so I'll write what I discussed with Vaileasys here on your talk page
- One, I mentioned on my talk page, I guess you used the copy-pasted version 40, but I assume you play and obtained all the data from the latest, 41.78.16 version? If so, we should bump all those pages to that version eventually?
- Secondly, we were wondering what to do with the video sections; should they be removed or kept, and if the latter in what form? I know Team Fortress 2 wiki has for example videos for each item, though there's a lot of work to have them all for each location.
Anyway, thanks again and keep the good work, it will all get ironed out eventually and we now have most of the locations thanks to you :) —Faalagorn☎/✓ 01:10, 11 September 2023 (BST)
Vehicle manufacturers
I think that the vehicle manufacturers should be listed in infobox vehicles and not infobox businesses, since they don't have actual factories to go to. I also think it just relates to vehicles better. Thoughts? -ThinkDock1721
pawn shop to add to wiki?
below louisville central park and next to Deep Fried Heaven... Ikip (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2023 (BST)
Thank you!
For the warm welcome, nice to meet you! -Kate Aces 
Leave me a note! 13:22, 28 October 2023 (BST)
Doe Valley
Thanks for the kind welcome and words on my edits! I had a look at the formatting and will try to do that from now on. I had a look on the Doe Valley page and it looked pretty basic so i'll start working to get it up to a better standard with more detail and locations listed. Thanks again! -User talk:The (plastic) Cheeseman
I came up with a plan in PZwiki talk:Project Locations and Maps. What do you think?ThinkDock1721 (talk)
"Barricaded city block" bug.
I'd like to elaborate on discord, if you would let me. Please add Diamond1 -UserName1234
What's Up?
Thanks for the warm welcome, nice to meet you! User:Valiko2023
Discord usernames
Regarding your edit, as far as Discord goes, the names are unique now, the display names are not, it's best explained in their blog post at https://discord.com/blog/usernames – not sure you can use the displayed username (which can vary per server) to find someone easily? I think the unique names are better to be used on userbox, in case someone want to add someone. For your case it's also not Ikip for the reason you took another username with that change :) —Faalagorn☎/✓ 23:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Appreciation
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Why are you deleting the stores that a business is connect too in the same building?
Your additions to the businesses with multiple locations is welcome, and needed. I like how you are adding descriptions of where they chains are located.
RE: Food Market Conven-U-Mart and Family Fashion
You removed: ...in the same strip mall as Taco del Pancho, Liquorty-Split, and Gusto D'Italia.
Also:
...with ValuInsurance.
Also:
Next to Zlatko's.
Next to Burgers.
Next to Genteel-y Used. In the same building with Adult Education Center, Cafe (Muldraugh) and Liquorty-Split.
Same building as Keep Afloat Debt Consolidation, Emma's Eatery and Purrfect Barkner Pet Supplies.
I spent a lot of time adding these very specific locations. It is exhausting to have to have to re add what you continue to delete.
this is valuable information for a player and for editors. For example, sometimes I enter the wrong coordinates for the building, and these business names help me find where the building actually is located... I don't understand. Ikip (talk) 10:39, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- I assess the necessity of these on a case by case basis. Some of them I choose to leave in, but most of them I choose to remove. Oftentimes it's extra information that isn't necessary, and there are better ways to approximate locations than just saying what the location is next to. Just saying that a building is next to another building is not descriptive enough for a general location.
- On top of that, when I do add a better description, the new description usually makes these descriptions unnecessary and redundant because of the more accurate one. For example, just saying a building is next to a burgers location does not tell the reader where in the town the building actually is. By adding that information, as well as approximation to major landmarks, the specific buildings the building is next to becomes irrelevant, since the reader can click on the coordinates and see those anyway. Plus, it adds length to the table sections, which then adjusts all section lengths and makes the table look very unwieldy and disproportionate.
- You shouldn't be entering the wrong coordinates anyway. Coordinates are so so so important that you have to double-triple check everything.
- I know you don't like deleting stuff, but having all this unnecessary info bloats the page and makes it look sloppy. Sometimes things get overwritten, especially with stub articles. I don't understand why it's such a big deal. It's just how a wiki operates.
- ThinkDock1721 (talk)
- The descriptions with this information is shorter then the images. There is no bloat. Adding a location in the town is helpful, but also stating where the location is, and what it is nearby, is also helpful. I will continue to revert your deletions, 90% of which locations that I found and added originally. Wasting my time. I respect other editors edits, and am a virulent inclusionists, and try to be inclusive and welcoming to all editors, especially new editors and people new to the game. It is very hurtful to me when I work on something a long time, and it is deleted. This is common on wikis, but it doesn't build communities, it stokes disillusionment and frustration. Ikip (talk) 15:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- That's why I always try to discuss with the admins or related editor before apply the change. He is the project leader and I think you should discuss this thought instead of adding things silently. I also think you two should come to a conclusion on this topic otherwise there will be a revision war. Maybe there is a better way to introduce the buildings nearby instead of simply adding a description. --Vibrance (talk) 15:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- The descriptions with this information is shorter then the images. There is no bloat. Adding a location in the town is helpful, but also stating where the location is, and what it is nearby, is also helpful. I will continue to revert your deletions, 90% of which locations that I found and added originally. Wasting my time. I respect other editors edits, and am a virulent inclusionists, and try to be inclusive and welcoming to all editors, especially new editors and people new to the game. It is very hurtful to me when I work on something a long time, and it is deleted. This is common on wikis, but it doesn't build communities, it stokes disillusionment and frustration. Ikip (talk) 15:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Thinkdoc's comments January 24 2024
@ThinkDock1721 joined the wiki in 2023, I joined in 2022.
He found this discord group and ask to be the head of the locations subgroup, before I got on discord months later.
Easy going Faal made him the leader with no discussion.
thinkdock1721 and I have a history.
I suggest adding one extra column. There is no extra complication.
Thinkdoc is confused about what kind of template I am talking about.
- spiffo:
Here is an example, approximately 1 inch / 3 centimeters larger.
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Louisville
Look man, I know you were here before me and you edited wikis before, that's fantastic and I'm glad you're experienced. I'm not as versed in MediaWiki as you so maybe I'm seeing it wrong or not understanding something, but you don't have to be combative like that. There's no need for that.
On top of that, I've done more for locations and maps than you have by a wide margin. I've fully completed three towns with in depth information and am nearly halfway done on the fourth. You made a bunch of stub articles and then added almost no information to them later. It takes like 5 minutes to make a stub article. Not to mention you haven't even touched the project modding that YOU asked for, and neither have you improved the barnstars like Vibrance specifically asked you to.
You may have joined earlier, but I have done far more than you in Locations and Maps, so I don't want to hear you pull the seniority card.
I am not going to argue about this with thinkdoc. I am actually glad I publicly posted this question, as I wont be sinking more time on the wiki. The worst part of this wiki is having to police my hard work and contributions.
Less edits means less having to police my edits from being deleted by thinkdoc. I need to go to work 8:57 am here.
YOU are the one who initiated the arguments! All I've done is try to explain things to you and you get mad that we make modifications.
If you are leaving, don't let the door hit you
- Ikip Your tone and comments are breaking the golden rule, Be Lovely. Disagree without aggression, assume good intent and miscommunication, not lying and argument. If you have an issue with another editor, and don't think it can be solved with a discussion, bring it to the admins, do not argue or insult. If you think your edits are being deleted, and so edit warred, flag it to an admin Kirrus (talk) 11:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ikip, I did warn you that you were breaking the golden rule -- Be Lovely. The discord moderators applied the timeout, for breaking that rule Kirrus (talk) 15:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)